Ron Macklin and Deb Dendy
Ron kicks off the discussion by probing Deb on some of the biggest problems in the workplace. Communication, or the lack thereof, is the first challenge Deb brings to the table. She explains how many employees simply aren't talking to each other effectively, leading to misunderstandings, lack of alignment, and missed opportunities for collaboration.
Ron delves further into what "alignment" looks like and how it can be achieved. For Deb, alignment means everyone in the organization understands the mission and shares a common story. A shared narrative can harmonize individual efforts into collective success.
Deb points out another significant problem: promoting employees for reasons that don't align with the responsibilities of leadership. Some are driven by financial gain or social status rather than a genuine desire to lead and nurture their teams.
The conversation shifts to conflicts in the workplace, which often stem from differing personal stories and perspectives. Deb describes a visual of thought bubbles above everyone's heads, each filled with unique worries and preoccupations. Ron emphasizes that these "stories" often lead to misunderstandings and disconnects among team members.
Ron highlights the importance of focusing on the stories that serve us, urging us to be aware of the narratives we create about others. Deb agrees, noting that changing the story in our heads can change our interactions and ultimately, our workplace dynamics.
Both Deb and Ron reflect on the power of a shared vision, using the example of the moon landing to illustrate how a common goal can drive exceptional achievements. They discuss how a visionary leader like Kennedy can create a direction that everyone can rally around, even if the details of execution are left open for the team to decide.
The dialogue touches on the concept of fluid leadership and followership, where roles are not fixed but dynamic, allowing individuals to lead when they are best suited to do so. This creates a culture of mutual respect and trust, where everyone's contributions are valued.
Ron brings up the concept of authenticity, which is all about being the author of your own life. By taking responsibility for the stories we create in our heads and shifting them to more constructive narratives, we can foster a more harmonious and productive work environment.
They discuss the detrimental effects of blaming others, which often leads to a victim mentality. Instead, by taking control of the stories we tell ourselves, we regain our power and become more effective collaborators.
Deb sums up the discussion by advocating for creating spaces where people can connect genuinely. Ron adds that focusing on people's strengths rather than their shortcomings can transform the workplace narrative. Together, they agree that the biggest problem in the workplace – and possibly the world – can be tackled by being responsible for the stories we make up and choosing ones that take care of ourselves and others.
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